October 14, 2009

Is it Prideful to Desire Greatness?

I couldn’t sleep, so I stayed up half the night thinking about some questions that had been bothering me. Is it really wrong to want to be great? Is it self-centered to want your life to really make an impact? Does ambition indicate a spiritual problem?

After tossing and turning for a couple of hours, I got up, made some hot tea, found my wife’s rocking chair and stared into the fireplace, mentally reviewing all the things God had been teaching me lately. One idea in particular seemed to capture my attention: what does “greatness” in God’s kingdom look like?

I had recently spent some time in Luke 22, a passage that raises this question. Near the end of Jesus’ earthly ministry, the disciples argued about which one of them was the greatest. Surprisingly, Jesus never rebuked them for their longing to be great. He gave them a completely new paradigm about what greatness is, but he didn’t condemn their desire. I was intrigued by that.

I also had been reading Good to Great, Jim Collin’s bestselling book about the practices of companies that are a cut above the rest. Collins and his team thoroughly researched hundreds of businesses and came up with a list of characteristics that distinguish great companies from good or mediocre ones. It has become one of the most popular business leadership books of all time. I was fascinated by the idea that such a small handful of principles can make such a huge difference in success.

As I sat up that night with these thoughts turning over in my mind, I realized that greatness is nearly everyone’s ambition in nearly every area of their lives. Corporate leaders want their companies to be great; professionals want to have great careers; men want to be great husbands and fathers; women want to be great wives and mothers; athletes want to be great competitors; scholars want to be great thinkers and researchers; artists want to create great art. Mediocrity is almost no one’s ambition.

I’ve asked a lot of people about their hopes and dreams, and I usually get unapologetic answers about their desires to be great at what they do. But when I ask believers if they want to be great Christians, they seem to be afraid to answer the question. They become unassuming and deferential, concerned that an ambition to be great in this most important aspect of life would seem arrogant. To talk about ambition in following Christ sounds like the opposite of humble spiritual maturity.

Yet what’s the alternative? Should we aspire to be mediocre Christians? Is it really prideful to want to honor God with lives of great faith and excellent work?

Even after spending three years with Jesus, the disciples didn’t’ seem to think so. They argued about which one of them was the greatest, and though Jesus had to redefine greatness for them, he didn’t tell them they were being unspiritual or arrogant because of their intense desire and ambition to be great. Instead, He laid out a clear but counterintuitive pathway that eleven of the twelve eventually fulfilled. And their greatness, as they followed that pathway turned the world upside down in less than a century.

God’s perspective. That’s the context that makes greatness a desirable quality. It’s one thing to be great in terms of financial success or popular opinion; that’s usually a self-centered, immodest ambition. But to be great in God’s kingdom? That’s a noble desire. We were designed to be great in God’s eyes. When He created humanity, He proclaimed us not just good, but “very good” (Gen 1:31). We exist for His glory. That kind of purpose isn’t served well by mediocrity or even by settling for simply being good.

No, God loves it when His people are zealous about making a difference for His kingdom. He eagerly looks over the landscape of this world to honor, empower, and strengthen those whose love and obedience bring Him pleasure. Our greatness – as He defines it – is His desire.

So if you’re ready move from good to great in God’s eyes, join us for the next couple of weeks on Living on the Edge radio. If you’d like to go through this in book format, we’re making Good to Great in God’s Eyes books 2 for the price of 1. Visit the Living on the Edge Online Store to get your copies.

Praying God’s Best… and Keep Pressin’ Ahead,

Chip

19 Comments

Ellen   on October 14th, 2009

Hi, Chip. I try to listen to you and a handful of other ’spiritual mentors’ every day. Desiring greatness isn’t necessarily something I aspire to have; it seems more built-in, at least for me. My kids often lament I don’t seem to have a reverse gear. During the road there have been many ‘deaths’ of external things so the internal, I presume, could be refined. Is God ever finished? Is there a resting place at some point? Or are we always being challenged to go forward. I have accepted the latter, and have come to realize the only ‘great’ thing that may ever happen will be the fact I tried.

barbara alford   on October 14th, 2009

Hi Chip–I am so blessed by your messages every day. As a “recovering” Mormon–the perspective you give–makes SENSE to me. I thank you for your insight–and the great lessons you teach as i pursue my new walk in Christianity…

Lee Williams   on October 14th, 2009

Hi,Chip.It seems to me that God’s definition of greatness is what He expects from all believers. The top commandment is to love God with all my being and the second is like it, to love my neighbor as myself. I am loved when someone meets my needs(sounds selfish but it’s true). When I serve my neighbor, I am obeying the commandment and aligning with God’s description of greatness. May we all be filled with the desire to serve others in accordance with His gracious will. May He bless you richly in your ministry according to His riches in glory. You have been a choice blessing in my life many times over. Yours in Him, Lee

Bethany   on October 15th, 2009

Just want to let you know what a blessing your work has been in my life. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and I’ve been grateful for the practical yet phenomenal ways your work has tied together the gospel principles taught within my church. I know my religion doesn’t have the best reputation among other Christians. But I want to testify that I know it is indeed Christ’s church on the earth today. Anyone can have this same testimony if they will exercise enough faith to apply its teachings in their own lives. If you really want to know what we believe, you can catch a glimpse of it through the following link
http://lds.org/conference/sessions/display/0,5239,23-1-1117,00.html
Thank you for what you’ve done and God bless you to continue doing it.

Barbara   on October 15th, 2009

Chip –
Hey Chip, thanks for opening up a new way of looking at ‘Greatness’; I’ve often beat myself up for wanting to be a Great Christian. Actually, it has caused strife in my home – as my husband would accuse me of being ‘Holier than’ or ‘Overly – Righteous’ – it’s been a real downer. As a recovering addict (6yrs Sober) I take seriously the Grace I’ve been given, I certainly don’t want to go backwards. I’m grateful to Our Great God for your anointing for teaching & your passion to get the word into all the world. Thanks for what you do. Barb

Robert Lee   on October 15th, 2009

I’ve wondered about this concept of greatness and wanting to be very good in the context of musicianship and sound quality in worship and christian music. After playing for many years, I often have very specific ideas how much rehearsal is enough or sound. I often ask myself how can the stage and sound environment be managed to present the best contribution to a worship experience. I am not always right with my recommendations, but with years of experience, I often am. I never quite know how much to say. I try and place myself within the direction of the person God has placed in leadership for the music, but it is not an exact process. This is a helpful discussion.
Thanks – Robert Lee

Jeff Paul   on October 15th, 2009

Great thoughts Chip,

I’m a young 22 year old guy that is in the midst of learning new things at my new job and seeking to be a great Christian. I just searched for a definition for the word “Great” on dictionary.com — 23 options came up..

Here are a few:

7.important; highly significant or consequential
13.of extraordinary powers; having unusual merit;
6.notable; remarkable; exceptionally outstanding:
4.wonderful; first-rate; very good

I find Jesus to be all of these and so my opinion is that we should all desire to be “Great”.

Additional biblical quotes:

Genesis 12:2
“I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.

You can become great according to God, and we should all diligently follow the way Jesus lived and adhere to the words of God so that we can become GREAT!!

Keep up the great work Chip your an awesome teacher, you break things down so well and enhance sermons with beautiful illustrations and stories!

Also something to forward to on my lunch-break each day! Keep pressin’ ahead~

-Jeff

Lowell   on October 16th, 2009

Chip, We miss you on KGNW in the Pacific NW. What I’m taught by my Lord to do is to love as He showed me when He walked among us. I find my path and comfort rests in the results He sees from my actions. I truly caution myself always to remain grounded by the fact that I, but for our Lord’s sacrificial death for my sins and my faith of
God, stand in the same line with Dahmer, Hitler, Stalin, and Cain. I am a tool for the Holy Spirit to use. (The power saw never receives credit for a house.) My excitement comes as my daily life actions cause anyone to see our Lord and Savior…give me any of the credit and I chide myself by reminding myself of the line I was in. Success is at completion of an event and I definitely wait patiently for my reward ’cause I can’t fully grasp the magnitude of that greatness that awaits all of us. May God continue to Bless your ministry to us. Lowell

Jessica Perry   on October 16th, 2009

I don’t know what else to say but THANK YOU! I was really struggling today with being a People Pleaser and I listened to your pod cast of this series and it really spoke to my issue. I got MAJOR ridicule on my facebook page by taking a stand against abortion. And what makes is worse is that everyone you know sees it. I deleted it from my page and felt even worse because I gave into the pressure. Thanks for addressing these issues. I am going to get the book “The ins and outs of rejection”.

cer327   on October 19th, 2009

Appreciate your messages on radio.

NO, it is not prideful to strive for greatness. If you know you have been given a gift and you have a passion for it. GO for being GREAT.

Charles

Lowell   on October 19th, 2009

Please forgive my choice of the extreme examples, such as Dahmer, Hitler, etc, used when commenting on whether I think it is prideful to desire greatness or is it really wrong to want to be great. I just know how easily in the judgment of the world, greatness can become self serving. For that reason I always remind myself in which line I stand (that of a sinner)… but for the sacrifical death of Christ Jesus. So many wonderful Christians I would place in a “greatness” folder fill the servant role to a “T”. Peter’s boldness often came to the forefront when he walked with our Savior. Yet, in their last exchange, Peter, promised to be a Judge with Christ, judging the twelve tribes of Isreal, shortly thereafter denied he even knew the Savior. My fear is that I, given far less challenging consequences or earthly rewards, would fail also. For that reason I find my “standing in line” thought keeps my perspective grounded. My poorly worded explanation of my position was never meant to be a criticism of others, just a “string on my finger” to remind me. Again, I have always appreciated Chip’s wonderful leadership and quidance and echo my thanks for that leadership. May God’s hand continue to guide his ministry.

Lowell

Bonnie   on October 23rd, 2009

Chip,
I sooooooooooo miss your preaching – Santa Cruz Bible was where I really felt a connection with God through you. That’s not only good IT’S GREAT. God put you in the ministry for a very good reason – to minister to folks like me that have doubts and fears – you speak in lay terms that we can all understand – you readily and often admit that you are fallible – all these things make you great – and knowing you – that will just continue to GROW!!! In my opinion you achieved greatness a long time ago!! Always room for improvement though :0) – that’s what keeps us humble. I’m so blessed to have “caught up with you again” here at LOTE!!
God Bless you big – hugs to Theresa!!

Anonymous   on October 24th, 2009

I don’t know how to be a great Christian – I want to be I go thru life daily hoping and praying I will know a way to make a difference and wanting to serve God but I’ve made some poor decisions that have cost me friends and neighbors- I want things to be better I don’t know how to do that- and I fear I will forever be defined by my mistakes- how can I ever be a great Christian when people will always view me as a low life? They don’t give u a chance they assume and ignore – and these are people claiming to be Christians – I want greatness but fear I’m forever defined by mistakes and sin.

hbw   on October 25th, 2009

This may be semantics. God calls us to obedience and holiness and righteousness; even deeds which are in the counsels of God’s will are divinely appointed for us to accomplish. Of course, our sinful nature is always before us and Paul explained that he did things he hated. Ultimately, our righteousness is in Christ. Thomas Watson said we bring flowers to the Lord but its mostly weeds and he accepts that; or, that we are like children who write a letter which is blotted and contains mistakes yet the Lord accepts it as we would from our own children we love. Perhaps we seek to be righteous and holiness and obedience before the Lord while the Lord forgives our on going sins, inevitable as they are, and that whether we acheive greatness through biblical parameters as advocated by LOTE and of course by seeking servanthood, is only known by God. When we get to the kingdom some are saved as if by fire and some have greater rewards as in my father’s mansion has many rooms, etc. As well, we are cautioned not to be too confident lest we fall. This is an interesting discussion that treads the line between our own duty to obey and be transformed by the Word and the limits of our condition. Thanks.

Jay D.   on October 31st, 2009

I tend to be so full of myself there is little or no room for the Holy Spirit. The process of acquiring modesty seems to involve suffering. While I recognize my need to come down off my high horse I am not overly fond of suffering (which at least in my case, seems the only cure) Then there is always the catch 22 of adopting a HUMBLER than thou attitude. Narrow is the path and clumsy are my feet. Add to that a swollen head making me top heavy and you have a recipe for disaster (train wreck souffle I believe) Not so recently I became aware of the fact that I am a Christian, I am just not very good at it. It has become a sort of mantra. It has kept me from giving up and hopefully going in the right direction every time I fall on my face and get back up.
It has been a while since I visited your site. I never noticed the blog before.
Keep up the good work <3!
JD

GLOR5646   on November 9th, 2009

I have been listening to you everyday on the way home from work. Especially on the subject of good to great in GOd’s eyes, God has been working in my life. Today I prayed with this woman at work her son has cancer, God has given me more love and compassion for people. Satan has been picking on me too, he doesn’t like my life changing. He always picks through my one daughter Cindy, she has been saved but she lets satan sometimes run her life, she had no father growing up so she has had a lot of problems because of her obsession with having men friends. I raised 4 daughters without their fathers help, if it wasn’t for the grace of GOd I wouldn’t have been able to do it. I have been through a lot of tests lately, I could write a book on all the things that has happened to one of my daughters Cindy especially pray for her because satan always uses her to cause a LOT of problems in the family. She has went with some pretty bad men one of them tryed to kill her 7yrs ago I can’t believe he is going to get out. He has abused a lot of people and they had him as a trustee serving food in the jail of clay county Indiana. Love and God bless you Chip Ingram for your faithfulness and all your staff, friends and family

Darlene   on November 11th, 2009

Today, through being disapointed in myself, I learned that being great does not mean that you put yourself above others and over value yourself. It is good to try to improve in an area of your life but one must also remain humlbe and look for God’s plan and be sure that his name is glorified in every thing we do and attempt to do. I need the Holy Spirit’s help to keep things in the right perspective. It made me realize that just because I am a Christian, I am still a sinner and need a reminder every day about keeping my relationship with Christ right. His will comes first.

Darlene   on November 11th, 2009

Today, through disappointment in myself, I learned that to be great, you do not put yourself above others and over value yourself. It is good to try to improve in areas of your life but we must follow God’s path and keep things in the right perspective. Just because I am a Christian does not mean that I am not a sinner and in need of forgiveness. I need the Holy Spirit’s help to remain humble and put God’s plan for my accomplishments first.

scott   on November 19th, 2009

What do you do when despair and discouragement seem to steal from the opportunity to be great in God’s kingdom? Or does He allow this to keep me dependent on him continually.

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